28. pinned by moderators. Ted Leo (Chisel, Ted Leo and the Pharmacists, The Both) - I would do unspeakable things for Ted Leo's skill and tone (but not practice, ironically; The Dark Arts seem more doable, somehow, and Reddit isn't going to shitpost itself). Zappa and Vai I would rank 1 and 2. Brian May 4. consider how many legendary musicians were around in the late 60s and Hendrix was one of the most impressive. Pretty huge Satch fan too, Frank Zappa, Duane Allman, Jerry Garcia, Carlos Santana, Trey Anastasio, the most hippie top 5 ive seen.. i love it, Wow no love for David Gilmour? Ry Cooder - for his tastefulness. Posted by. This list is the worst of Eddie Trunk in a nutshell. SRV. [Discussion] Top 5 guitarists? What are your top 5 favorite guitarists? Stevie Ray Vaughan - in the 80s where pop stars and hair metal was popular on MTV he became successful as a strictly blues musician, very impressive. It's time for the annual Christmas Album! The man only had three usable fingers on his left hand yet he was a fast guitarist than some pros that are are around today! Jimi Hendrix - so visionary and creative, didn't mimic other musicians and was the most successful musician in his day. SUBJECTIVE MATTER! so versatile his playing is chameleon like, anything from blues, folk, bluegrass, jazz, East Indian, to rock and heavy metal. Your Top 5 Replacement Guitarists. Buddy Guy is underrated in blues. 34. Jeff Beck - for his tone. Top 5 Guitarists Of All Time ? 16 days ago. No Stupid Questions - December. Similar to Matt Bellamy, and was a super nice guy when I bumped into him at an airport. Eddie Van Halen - IMO the definition of original, has a playing style all his own, was ahead of his time, modified his amps and guitars because they weren't even fit for his ability, so good at shredding it's actually frightening. Behemoth is the only extreme metal band I've heard with guitar parts that are more than a wall of sound. Also great at improvising and playing live. WhatsApp. The solos are beautifully musical and still heavy as balls, and the fact that he can play so well while also performing those kind of vocals is just insane. It seems like music has been changing since the 80s, and even the hardest rocking bands don’t give enough credit to their guitarists. The musical instruments are channels thorough which words can be said. ), Vivian Campbell (His work with Dio in the 80s had a HUGE impact on me, and to this day I still think the solos on the albums 'Holy Diver' and 'Last in Line' are some of the best of the entire decade), Yeet david gilmour. Click Here to upgrade your account and enter today! 45. Too many to list. Robert Fripp and Jonny Greenwood somewhere, Although he cant play anymore Jason becker, histechnical skill was off the charts he definitely was one of the greats. I feel weird including Manabe and Yamanaka despite them clearly having separate careers outside the pillows, so as a bonus: John K Samson (Weakerthans) - The solo on Prescience of Dawn hit me while driving one day after a bad breakup and I had to pull over and have myself a little weep, which I think has to count for something. It would depend on the type of music a listener prefers. Also is just a rock god in general. I know you can't measure guitar-skills beyond a certain point - a point which MANY excellent guitarists have exceeded a long time ago. Simply because he's the most innovative and influential rock guitarist of all time. Top 25 Contemporary Acoustic Blues Guitarists; Top 25 Classical Guitarists; Musician’s Index; All Articles; Album Reviews; Curated Store; Top 25 Fingerstyle Guitar Players. Gonna check out Bellamy, haven't really heard about him! Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Rolling Stone panel of top guitarists and experts picks 100 Greatest Guitarists, from Pete Townshend and Lindsey Buckingham to Prince and Jimi Hendrix. It’s no secret that most musicians love a good film. Played with so much emotion and raw talented it's just so easy to appreciate him. Hendrix. One of the only real rock stars of this era in my opinion. TGP is giving away a Strat, Tele, and Jazzmaster. Guitarists may be familiar with Eventide, which has produced a number of high-end effects pedals covering modulators, delays and other such fun. Truly inspirational. Tony Iommi (Black Sabbath, Heaven & Hell, Iommi) - Again, a legend. Unless, of course, you do need an introduction, in which case I'd point you to the song I just linked. Go. Brian May 3. But I still like to talk to people about their favourite guitar-players and why; it can be in terms of influence, sound or just pure technical skill. Let's face it, we all haven't had a decent and fair exposure to all the great guitarists out there, and a lot of who we think is the best depends on the type of music we like. My personal favorite guitarist of all time, Hendrix - of course. 5.8k members in the blur community. I think that's because: 1) he died at 24, only after 2 1/2 studio albums with The Allman Brothers Band. Johnny Marr. 8. Telegram . The best place to start if you're new is right below in our "Rules" section. 3 years ago. Derek Mount: The multi-talented Derek is an American guitarist, singer, songwriter, producer, and composer. John Mayer: 5. Slash: 6. Five best DAWs for guitarists in 2020. Incredibly versatile and also instantly recognizable, and he's the reason I picked up a guitar. 8th March 2020 at 5:07 pm. His phrasing is just incredible and his rhythm playing is amazing. He's got a pretty good rock star look as well, I think. Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Tumblr Pinterest Reddit WhatsApp Telegram Viber. Thanks for visiting. Moderator of r/guitarpedals. Legend. share. He, Hendrix, and Clapton are the only ones on that level. Brian May 2. Through a flute you can express meaning of calmness, through violas shiver can be felt. Cillian Breathnach . People don't call you the greatest guitar player ever for nothing...Died at 27. As creatives watching a good movie can be inspiring. 6 months ago. He's probably the Hendrix of our era in terms of revolutionizing the guitar, and he writes some iconic riffs. It's Brian May. I’m not sure it’s possible to definitively say who are THE best 25 fingerstyle guitar players in the world. Linkedin. Trey Spruance (Mr. Bungle, Secret Chiefs 3) Frank Zappa Buzz Osborne (Melvins) Ichirou Agata (Melt-Banana) Michael Algar (Toy Dolls), These are all from my favorite bands, but damn, they are so great and unique. Tom MorelloDavid GilmourEddie Van HalenMatt BellamyAngus Young. He started as a guitar instructor, lending knowledge and guidance to some of rock’s top guitarists like Steve Vai and Metallica’s Kirk Hammett. I recommend them all to anybody with curious ears. Other than that, I would agree with you. idc wat u guys say this is my own opinion Derek Mount: 9. Rising. John McGeoch in Siouxsie and the Banshees. :). By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Tom Morello. So I’ve been listening through Blur’s entire discography for the first time (I’ve heard some of the singles but never the full albums) and I currently just finished Blur’s self-titled album from 1997. Richard Z Kruspe. In this WatchMojo REDUX video join us as we count down our picks for the top 10 guitarists of all time. Jimmy Page - founded Led Zeppelin, possibly the greatest rock band of all time. This is a forum where guitarists, from novice to experienced, can explore the world of guitar through a variety of media and discussion. Get in on this and sign up for a song here! I would consider Charlie Christian, a really old jazz player. Posted by . Brian May (Queen/Brian May) - I don't think this needs an explanation. save. Twitter. Every single one sticks in your head once you hear it and that's what makes a great riff. Randy Rhoads was another who never got his due because he died way to soon. Facebook. Welcome to r/guitar, a community devoted to the exchange of guitar related information and entertainment. Hot New Top Rising. Technically he might not be the best, but he created melodies that were/ are top shelf. If you have guitar related questions, use the "Search" field or ask the community. Posted by. Top 5 Best Rock Guitarists of All Time. Derek Trucks - for his slide (even better than Duane). Telegram. Also, kicking back. The first two Sabbath albums are in standard tuning and are what I would consider the blueprint for metal. I was just thinking about this recently. Also died pree young at 35. dont mean to sound like some sort of pretentious asshole when i say this, but as a huge fan of counter-culture era music (mid 60's-mid 70's) i would have to say muddy waters. He's my guitar idol (not a huge fan of his political stance). inspired so many musicians after him it's godlike. Twitter. Steve Vai is one of my favorite guitarists of all time. The guitar is their weapon of choice. The 50 best guitarists of all time, as voted by you. The best metal riffs of all time are Rammstein riffs. David Gilmour has to be the number one most successful and best replacement guitarist. share. John Petrucci - Constant Motion is all I need to state here, I think. I would, however, mention Slash. The following are without a doubt the top guitarists to have ever picked a string. 773 comments. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Press J to jump to the feed. 4,392 3 minutes read. card. Did you get a pic? Of course, we know that isn't true. Sawao Yamanaka (the pillows (Rhythm)/The Predators/Casablanca/Sawao Yamanaka) - Yamanaka has a good feel for what being a (rhythm) rock guitarist means; big driving sound as a canvas for lyrics and melody. I liked how they went from Rock to a Rock-Pop fusion, something in their case i think it worked well while in other bands like GNR didn't work. 6th March 2020. The rest could be interchanged I think as they were all incredibly influential and all made incredible music. No particular order, selected mostly by the influence they had on me: No particular order: -Guthrie Govan -Tom Scholz -Tommy Emmanuel -Joe Pass or Eric Gales -Chris Surma, Honestly cant think off a 5th that would really join that group of influences on me, Trey Anastasio Jerry Garcia Duane Allman Hendrix Srv, Jonny Greenwood Billy Gibbons Blake Mills Randy Rhoads Elliott Smith. Don't let the DAW hit you on the way out: we take a look at the pros and cons of the recording software available right now. Roger can say whatever he wants, but the Floyd never ever would've got to where they did without Gilmour. Press J to jump to the feed. I like plenty of bands, but I'm not always focused on the guitar. Django Reinhardt should definetely be on the list because of how influential he was to the presence of guitar in jazz as well as his skill. Tony Iommi literally started an entire genre of music when he down-tuned that guitar of his in 1970. Jeff Beck. Top 5 Guitarists Of All Time francescasgro: slightlymad1001: the-white-gueen-walks: alldead-alldead: rhagsodyofinnuendo: the-white-gueen-walks: brianmaylove: 1. March 3, 2017. Any feature like this is a rock'n'roll bunfight, and we've inevitably included musicians some readers would never have chosen, and ignored others they believe worthy of a place near the top. I get RJ is a legend but not a great guitarist. I can't really rank them because they're all so great but: Brian May. When Van Halen’s debut album hit in 1978 rock was under fire. But it is with their famous Blackhole reverb that we've found ourselves the most creatively inspired. ;-) I know you can't measure guitar-skills beyond a certain point - a point which MANY excellent guitarists have exceeded a long time ago. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Top 5 Movies for Guitarists. Share. ReddIt. No doubt a legend even though I he's not been a huge influence on my playing directly. MusicSnake Magazine. Home/Entertainment/Arts/ Top 10 Best Guitarists of All Time. Thread starter Boston617; Start date Sunday at 11:29 AM; Prev. Close. But I still like to talk to people about their favourite guitar-players and why; it can be in terms of influence, sound or just pure technical skill. I'd like to see what other people would put for the top 5 guitar players ever, you don't have to elaborate why if you don't want, but here's my list in my humble opinion. Probably the only guitarist that I listen to and think, "There's no way I'll ever be able to play like that, even if I practice 12 hours a day". Rolling Stone Send a Tip With apologies to Jimmy Page, Jack White, The Edge, and women, here are the Top 5 Greatest Guitarists of All Time (for today, listed in alphabetical order according to the third letter of the player Joe Bonamassa: 1. That's outlandish, for real, this thread needs more David Gilmour. Jack White. John Petrucci: 2. card classic compact. John Frusciante obviously took the RHCP to a whole different level. Arts World & People Top 10 Best Guitarists of All Time. (He's still young though! and watching a movie with the family or our significant other can be a great way to relax after a long day of rehearsals or finger grounding guitar sessions. Pat Metheny - Bright Size life changed how I music'd when I first heard it! 28. One of the things that the new guard of guitarists always forget about is this simplistic and very effective guitar playing that speaks to you, instead of just always two-hand tapping." So I'm asking, who really does it for you? Archived. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Email. The two albums Hatebreeder and Follow the reaper metal guitar doest get better. Every modern guitar player owes a lot to Charlie Christian. share. Eddie Van Halen: 3. I'm so jealous of you. Literally why I linked it. I'd like to see what other people would put for the top 5 guitar players ever, you don't have to elaborate why if you don't want, but here's my list in my humble opinion. Not a full time replacement, but a shout out to Steve Brown (Trixter) for filling in for both Viv Campbell and Phil Collin on separate occasions on Def Leppard tours. Dave Mustaine. 3 0 … By. 5 songs guitarists need to hear by… Eddie Van Halen. Guthrie Govan - Undoubtedly one of the most skilled guitar-players in the world. I'm sorry, but I can't place any validity in a list that does not have Duane Allman in the top 5 guitarists of all time. Synyster Gates: 10. Paying tribute to one of the greatest guitarists of all time . And of course at the end we give honorable mentions to the other greats (plus some shoutouts). He built his guitar, toured with one of the biggest rock groups in history, and is also an astrophysicist, by the way. Davy Graham Richard Thompson John Martyn Johnny Marr Nick McCabe Dave Okumu Chris Sharkey Peter Green Nick McCabe John McLaughlin Also died at 27. (Don't kill me please! Paco de Lucia - Traditional spanish music. He can pretty much do whatever he wants to on the guitar (As far as I know). I am lostening to 'time' right now. 45. Hendrix - Should be higher, but all his mighty influence has been poured unto me by the 4 players above him. Thread starter GarMan; Start date Sep 10, 2013; Status Not open for further replies. He was a fine soloist, certainly not as fast as Van Halen or Hendrix but he was really the first guy to use the guitar as a soloing instrument, and one of the first electric players to boot. Each to his own but there are absolutely brilliant guiarists, lutenists too, who should be included when the heading is just Top 10 Guitarists, without specifying a genre. In fact these guys have it all…technical ability, applied knowledge, style, work ethic, and not to mention God given natural ability! Jimi Hendrix - so visionary and creative, didn't mimic other musicians and was the most successful musician in his day. 10. Matt Bellamy. I'm more of a rhythm guy in practice, but in theory I prefer lead. I'm not a big fan of talk about who's the best guitarist. Shares (Image credit: Lynn Goldsmith / Getty) The late Eddie Van Halen's guitar legacy cannot be overstated. What are your top 5 favorite guitarists? Michael Paget: 7. By Simon Bradley 06 October 2020. Email. An autograph? Cookies help us deliver our Services. No introduction necessary. What are your top 5 favorite guitarists? Interestingly, only one of these fine players is one of the richest guitarists in the world. These two deserve a bit of recognition: Alexi Laiho (1998-2002) - listen to Bed of razors or Kissing the shadows. I guess my 5 fav’s were chosen mainly for their relation to that ever so important word when it comes to guitar playing, STYLE. 69 comments. Kurt Vile: 8. 28 comments. Discussion. he and other blues guitarists (including BB king) were so massively influential to all … John Mayer. Brian May – popular memes on the site ifunny.co But I’m gonna try. Tom Morello. Robert Johnson - the best blues player of his time, has a complicated playing style where rhythm and lead are played simultaneously. August 1, 2017. Click Here for full details. My Top 5 Favorite Guitarists. Nergal. Moderator of r/guitarpedals. Facebook. Here are the top 10 most famous and greatest guitarists in the world 2020. Top 5 Overrated Guitarists - According to ProGuitarShop. Ritchie Blackmore - for his improvisations. Image: Sean Prior / Alamy Stock Photo. Similar to Matt Bellamy, and was a super nice guy when I bumped into him at an airport. Hot New Top. Not as technically skilled as a lot of the others but his sheer inventiveness and creativity with effects and songwriting is very admirable. We also include a few runners up that are very close to taking a top spot and may already have in your mind. Super recognizable and versatile style, and his licks/chord progressions always sound like a film score. Bluegrass flatpicking is a long tradition with a lot of fine players. Brian May 5. u/drunkin_go_nuts. top five guitarists in my opinion!!! save. I listened to Aerosmith a lot in the 1990's. 5) Now, we have a problem: i want to honour the rock i started to listen to, so i will honour Whitford. It's a shame he's not a household name like those 2 though. Top 25 Contemporary Acoustic Blues Guitarists; Top 25 Classical Guitarists; Musician’s Index; All Articles; Album Reviews; Curated Store; Top 25 Best Bluegrass Flatpicking Guitarists. 16 days ago. Some of the bands/artists I enjoy primarily (or at least significantly) for the guitar would be: Yoshiaki Manabe (the pillows (Lead)/Nine Miles/Yoshiaki Manabe) - the pillows were a major part of why I started playing electric guitar rather than just campfire singalong acoustic guitar. Technically, someone like Satriani should be in the conversation. Table of Contents. James Monteith (TesseracT): "For me and many guitarists who discovered metal in the 90s, Dave Mustaine is one of the most influential and vital players of that time. 1 … Go to page. Whether you like metal or not, he's gotta be up there for influence alone. Kirk Hammett: 4. 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