I am an orthodox Jew and I love our communities because they are amazing. Sad that what you say in jest is true in the most extreme cases. No, that would be Muslim and this is Jewish. Now these bigots are growing in numbers and spouting their venom her on these posts. Maybe you should get a sense of humor instead of telling her to get a *@# life. Punishment for performance in front of “mixed audience” It is just a fact these days that the patterns in life which indicate a person’s world view have become quite distinct. It IS their ‘own god damn country’ and it is their right, according to the 1st Amendment, to put up signs making this polite REQUEST. Little by little my freedoms are being taken away in the guise of Wearing short pants or short sleeved shirts is animal like? of men and women was lashed 39 times to make him It’s like saying, “I don’t respect your right to your belief but you sure as hell need to accept mine.”. What the Muslims want is to implement Sharia LAW here under which that woman in the pink tank top would have been put in jail or stoned or something and those punishments would have force of law. To comply with the wishes of people with moral and ethical values would be in direct conflict with those who are making the bigoted comments here. Grow up. Browse photos, see new properties, get open house info, and research neighborhoods on Trulia. How about using a friggin’ “G” on the end of your words? Well yes, there are many problems, but I don’t buy the “make it go away with bigger problems” routine”. They are also running dope in Mexico and Afganistan. We get so confortable in galous that we forget that we are all gerim in this country like we were in egypt, germany, poland. It’s called taking responsibility for yourself, something our federal government does not understand. Yes EWagner635, they did ask us to remove our kippas and shave. Kiryas Joel Posts ‘Tznius’ Signs For Visitors, NYC: Man Who Stabbed Muslim Cabbie Indicted On Hate Crime Charges, Lakewood: Yeshiva Bais Hatorah Which Closed 2 Weeks Ago, To Reopen Under New Leadership. If some of the detractors writing or reading these posts were to visit I’m sure you would leave with a new found respect. It’s just before Rosh Hashonnah, and this is an especially-bad time to practice your intolerance of Satmar Chassidim. Be considerate of their beliefs and lifestyle. Or are you just assuming they are liberal to champion your own personal set of political values? And for those who called that place SLUM? Your country is soooo funny. are u for real Appled??? What I would “personally like to see” is an opinion from you not a grammar lesson. Alec, please read the article carefully. We’re not Shariai compliant–yet. Yes, in a sense, they have. 2. I see no difference. Wish we could criminalize that at times. She’s from Monroe, which is next door to KJ. You and “The Truth” (LOL) have verbatim comments. In Israel, this same sect beat women who don’t measure up to their level of modesty. Why is it that so may of the folks who demand that we respect Muslim culture refuse to respect anyone else’s? Talk about “learnin somethin.”. They are safe and peaceful and full of hard working, entrepreneurial helpful people. This is not sharia law, this is common courtesy. You obviously haven’t been around here for the past 20 months..NO HE CAN’T…do anything worthwhile. America is a cesspool!!! Its a public property. I 100% agree with Rob. Idiot. Feel free to ignore it. Resule? If you allow the folks in the community to politely ASK, then you must allow and believe in the right of the anti-ground-zero mosque folks ask that the mosque not be built. Sharia is on the move in America with head mullahs like Obambi and that Dhimmi Bloomberg. As for the article, there’s nothing wrong with politely asking somebody to maintain certain standards in your presence. And to put a sign at the village entrance is offensive. The long-suffering Reds’ fans finally have something to get excited about! What is so wrong about a town that expresses a preference for modesty and wishes to curtail crass, rude behavior? The government is committing FALSE FLAG actions. Best read your US Constiution. Oh! If you were a woman you wouldn’t make such a stupid, arrogant statement. I do not physically enforce these standards on others because the standards are not law. If you don’ t like it, don’t go to town. Sounds like an interesting place to visit, at least you kow you won’t get mugged by a crip or bombed by a muzzie. What is worse than a bigot is a race, religion or group that declares any action or word off limits for those that are not of that race, religion or group……. Admit it. Would you intentionally wear a string bikini to a black tie dinner? Can complete sentences be used? its only respect that is being asked Go crawl back under the rock you came from. These bigots think that the beliefs and values of others are vacuous, void of substance. How dare the majority of America have fears of a group of people who hijacked planes and flew them into buildings killing thousands of American citizens! The they you so scornfully mention are Jews and using the term “they” shows your anti-Semitic hatred of “US” and the freedom we have “HERE” in the USA. No one wants to see your nasty bits hanging out. or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech,” In my county (Santa Rosa, Florida) the ACLU sued the school district because kids from the FCA prayed at graduation. The wording is polite, and there is no threat of enforcement. This, however, is a community of free citizens making a polite requrest of visitors. The negative comments are born out of ignorance and the prejudice you accuse them of. Its not a private town if it was private only the people who live there would be allowed to be there and this is the United States of American not Saudi Arabia we are blessed to be able to dress the way we all do. Also, I’m only 38, but remember when people knew what language was appropriate in public (or in front of elders, children, women, etc) which now seems to be forgotten. please respect my local customs… when you come into my neighborhood, take off all your clothes, paint your face blue, and jump up and down… it’s ‘common courtesy’.. right ?? If these clowns don’t like the way we dress, let them go to Israel and practice their intolerance there. The tradition in the village of Satmar Hasidic Jews is modesty. This is no different. Sorry KJ but that’s too bad. The builders want us to be tolerant of their decision to build there. Did you even read the story Ann. I believe that they have the FREEDOM to make a request…. We used to use shame in the great country of ours to discourage bad behavior (teen pregnancy, public drunkeness, swearing, divorce). kids dont bring guns to school there…parents dont beat their kids to death there…spouses dont kill each other sooo get urself educated. But poverty there seems to be invisible. You are simply being asked to respect the local culture. These people are not the Taliban, because they do not KILL people for non-compliance. That is not healthy. I believe the Constitution was written to protect the ability of individuals AND communities to decide what is best for them, rather than have some big autocratic government make the rules for them. There have been many stories of how women are beaten by these self-appointed guardians of morality for not moving to the back of buses. It seems to be missing. I think I’ll write my congressman…. Shows more than necessary? Please read the story before making any silly “slippery-slope” arguments like this. That’s KJ….they make their own rules and apply them as they see fit. Write CSS OR LESS and hit save. this is as bad or worse than the muslim’s treatment of women…..put em all on an island the viola, the world is free of that problem forever. They don’t even read or believe in the principles embedded in the Constitution but boy do they want to sue! It’s nice to see people with standards of behavior. You have every right not to go there if you insist on showing your private parts all over the place. If i lived there i wouldnt go into that area on principle typical Jewish we dont like you but we’ll take your money addittude. mikey, RTFA. Instead of scowling, offer (notice I said OFFER) something for the person to cover up. What do you think the “Maintain gender seperation in all public places” means? They have decided that they are their own Sovreign Nation and do as they please without consequence. What a thin skinned whiney namby-pamby milquetoast child. Carol, you might want to get your “G” looked at. The curious case of Kiryas Joel, N.Y. Continetti is guest-blogging for The Post. of men and women was lashed 39 times to make him The outcry would be deafening. Liberals are famous for their double standards – especially requiring others to do things (like paying taxes) that they don’t do themselves. What does Kiryas mean? @ Dave C – THEY’RE NOT IMPOSING ANYTHING! They simply ask people who are visitors, and don’t even need to be there in the first place, to respect their culture. And if her “g” doesn’t work, that doesn’t preclude her from leaving a comment! I find their sign offensive. You might if you were a woman. Maybe you should learn about agreement in number before you criticize others. Maybe CBS can do a study on the amazing support structure that these people have created where if someone has fallen on hard times practically everyone will rise up and contribute time and money to making sure that person can get back on their feet. How Muslim women can wear those burkas when it’s over 100 degrees outside is beyond me. I miss those days. Relax. Go ahead and mock and scorn the LORD and His anointed – you will, ultimately, never win – because, mark my words – He, your creator, in the one in control. Lani Santo is executive director of Footsteps, an organization that has offered guidance to more than 1,000 ultra-Orthodox Jewish men and women who are looking to explore the world outside their childhood neighborhoods. There were 2,233 housing units, at an average density of 2,033.2 per square mile (785.0/km ). “It’s nice to request that people behave in a way respect to their beliefs,” said Barry Kaufmann of Wantagh. Not! I can’t believe it! This must be a joke!!! Not at all. OMG!!! One of the many differences between the Hasidic Jews and the Muslims, is that this is a polite request, not sharia law demand. Furthermore, you actually have the gnads to cite Wikipedia as a credible source? It is truly sad we have lost our manners. Only a liberal cries foul when someone asks you to respect their customs and then demands that salt should be illegal, tells people where they can smoke, and then screams that you can’t put up a Christmas tree in a school. freedom does not mean show all ur meat,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,u nudist go live in a jungle. Since taking leadership of the Village of Kiryas Joel in New York in 1990, the political leaders have exploited the 'bloc' vote to control local and state politicians and judges. whats next a nice stoning for non-compliance? The Hassids are fotgetting that. This town is not a house, its not a gated community. So what if someone frowns at you for wearing shorts. This is The United States. I frown at trucks that have bull balls hanging off the back bumper. No, it isn’t. ©2020 CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved. Well done. I re-read the article and didn’t see where it mentioned which political idealism they fell under? Could you explain that? Always keep covered up for God. THEY’RE MAKING A POLITE REQUEST! So one can argue for what seems a completely unrelated issue, like whether there should be a joint tip jar at the end of a night in your restaurant, or if each server should keep exactly what they specifically earn, and one can easily, usually, guess whether you are ‘liberal’ or not. I’m sympathetic, but you lost me on that one. Some communities just believe they own the place. Speak ENGLISH only when speaking or spoken too. People that complain here can’t or didn’t read the sign, as usual liberals jumping to a misdirected conclusion. Do it if you love it but do it because you love it not because you are trying to change somebody or make them comply with YOUR thinking. The problem is that both sides want the other to be tolerant. It’s actually quite courteous to let people know which standards are expected at a given place, just as most people give dress code guidelines on an invitation to an event. Parker gets an additional fail too. Me too but only to a certain point. And to Embarassed to be a Jew – they should be embarassed by you and your ignorance. Jewish Shaira is no better than Muslim Shaira. Really, the local store would be filing for bankruptcy in a heart beat. 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Seriously? “I feel like my constitutional rights are being violated,” said Tyrone Wheeler, a day laborer in the village seeking work. “The guys let me walk by, the women stop and stare, start whispering to each other…I just ignore them.”. OUtrageous, and in my country too. I’m 75 years old. FA Hayek explains this beautifully in The Fatal Conceit. Monroe resident Jessica Pantalemon stopped to cash a check in Kiryas Joel wearing a bright pink tank top and white shorts. And nobody stops Hasidic Jews from beating up women in Israel if they don’t comply. Hey “not offended” why don’t you have something to say, you have NOTHING to say unless someone says something first. THE POLITICIANS AND BANKERS ARE ROBBING YOU BLIND. Couldn’t they scowl at people before the sign was put up? This is not discrimination against men or women, they are just asking that people shopuld act in public in many ways how people in the 1940’s -fifties suburbia acted in america. You may follow it if you are a reasonable person or refuse to follow it if you are a jerk. No one is requiring anybody to dress in any way; you are free to ignore their request. Problem solved. I bet they’ll feel really stupid when they finally realize there is no god and they missed out on all the fun. They wanted no established religion, but to the fathers of this nation, they felt a society without religion will fall. I think that people being offended by overt modesty is telling. The whole idea here in AMERICA is that it’s a melting pot, not segregated, that means we ALL have to get along, not just the ones that are “special interests” . TO the writer who made comments about the germans and going back to europe your just an arrogant racist. And, how many times have you read about a graduation speech being edited by the administration because it mentions God or Jesus? Even on the hottest of days, most residents cover up from head to toe. The drug companies are turning vaccines into a sterilization/soft kill weapon. We all know many Muslims are intolerant, and lack but the mentch thing to do is, when someone comes into the community dressed in a way that might offend the community’s standards, someone should offer a shawl or coat so that the guest is welcome in the way our forefather Abraham taught us and politely request the honored guest put on the covering. And it is falling. Just a polite request. SMELL THE COFFEE. So in this situation, the traditions of dress are well understood. You’d love it if others would “comply” with the wishes presented in your post. You wouldn’t if you were a lady. If you want to express your opinion, please either learn to be polite or take them elsewhere. This is not a LAW, genius. you feel UNCOMFORTABLE???!?!?!! This is a REQUEST, NOT a law, nor is it a return to a walled “ghetto” community. A sign in Kiryas Joel, the Hasidic Jewish enclave, is evoking mixed reaction. The word “they” is anti-semitic? Why, Brucie? This is not Tel Aviv. There are no consequences. I had to laugh at your troll, cause reading the story, no one is as stupid as you look by posting this. Steven here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiryas_Joel. August 27, 2010 at 10:00 Just when you think that things can’t get worse….. Be Yourself”. Jessica Pantalemon has a nice bottom, I am happy to look at it anywhere she wants to show it off. They said there is no punishment, it’s merely a suggestion. Your comment is silly and uncalled for. The town did not put up this sign, a private group placed it. I can’t believe so many libtards can’t comprehend what a “right” is and what it isni’t…. This is the U.S. of A. A large new sign greets visitors as they cross over Route 17 on Forest Avenue and enter a world where the skirts and shirt sleeves are always long, regardless of the season. It’s a sign. Parker’s obviously free to be a moron. What does the poverty rate have to do with their values re attire ?? How dare they suggest what is appropriate wear for a public street. It seems like a polite request, redsfan. Hurray for Jessica’s nice bottom! Get a f—in life Lilly. Every time you do anything in life, some liberal thinks their constitutional rights are violated. A village trustee pointed out the signs said nothing about consequences for violating these guidelines – because there are no consequences. “I think the overwhelming often times hatred laced condemnation of the rather polite request is evidence of intolerance and bigotry.”. Idiots never learned. yo, they are JEWISH, ya know the folks who have been fighting Muslims for years. This is not Sharia law. Well, then it’s the locals’ faults for being “insensitive’, right? Your lack of simple grammar is inconsiderate. you asked for it and now its here. WAKE UP, you forgot your tinfoil hat. Yeah, because the penalty would be stoning to death. 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